Shadowhunters Roundtable 2×19: “Hail and Farewell”

It’s the battle of the JC’s, one dies and one makes it out alive...
by Ana Martinez on August 14, 2017
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Shadowhunters 2×19 left us with our hearts beating so hard after watching Jace and Jonathan face off

It all went down in this week’s episode of Shadowhunters. With just one episode left for the finale, fans are left anxious and preoccupied as it’s been revealed there will be deaths in the last episode of the Season. This week, we followed the group as their search for Jonathan was full on. After finding the real Sebastian back at his apartment, the gang searched for help with the Downworld, and after not getting the answer they were hoping for, they decided to continue the search by themselves. Clary had the idea of tracking him by using both Jace and Clary’s angelic abilities together, making the track rune stronger than normal. And after succeeding, they headed out with the hopes of putting an end to this situation.

After Valentine and Sebastian learned that the Lake is actually the Mortal Mirror, they planned their escape to Idris to continue their plan. But things were not easy for them, as they were forced to stay in New York, unable to leave the city thanks to wards placed by Magnus and his friend, Catarina Loss.

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The Seelie Queen is still very interested in having Simon by her side, which Simon uses as an opportunity to make her reconsider her stand and join the Shadowhunters in the hunt for Valentine and his son. After expressing her interest in the Daylighter and him refusing, once again, to join her, the Seelie Queen is left visibly angry and surprised. She kidnaps Maia to prove her point and takes her to the Seelie Court, where she wakes up surrounded by seelies. At the end of the episode, we also see the Queen and Valentine joining forces, clearly Valentine offers something very interesting to her, which easily convinces her to join him.

After an intense fight between Jace and Jonathan, the second is close to killing Jace when Izzy appears and grabs his attention. Jace takes this opportunity to surprise Jonathan and slams his sword into his back. He then throws him in the river, killing him and putting an end to one of the two main villains.

As you can see, things keep getting more and more intense on Shadowhunters. Let’s not waste any more time and meet our Roundtable for this week’s episode:

Blaire (@theshadowhunterscodex) – Reader, Author and all round Fangirl.

ShadowhuntersLA (@ShadowhuntersLA) - Fan account about Shadowhunters and The Mortal Instruments.

Stacey (@StaceyONeale) - YA Fantasy Author and Writer for TVAD.

Nephilimupdates (@NephilimUpdates Twitter / Instagram) – Update account about everything Shadowhunters.

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1. Catarina Loss, a powerful Warlock and one of Magnus’ oldest and dearest friends, appeared in this episode. What was your first impression of her?

Blaire (@theshadowhunterscodex): I love her! I love how casual and funny and nice she seemed! It’s still early as it was only a small scene, but so far she seems to match the book version nicely!!

Stacey (@staceyoneale): She looked exhausted. 😀 Actually, I was hoping for more of her in the episode. She’s a cool character I remember from the books.

ShadowhuntersLA (@shadowhuntersla): She’s so chill! Magnus definitely knows how to choose friends. We got to know Ragnor Fell last season and he won a place in our hearts with his interactions with Magnus. I’m pretty sure it will be the same with Cat. I already admire her for taking care of the sweet Madzie and being working as a nurse in a mundane hospital.

Nephilimupdates (@nephilimupdates): Another book character has arrived on the show! Catarina seems to have a unique friendship with Magnus and seems to confide in him a great deal. It appears that she is following along with Magnus’ judgment and is alright with his decisions regarding the Shadow World tension between the Nephilim and Downworlders. I look forward to seeing more of her and I believe she could be an interesting character to see as the show progresses.

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2. The rune scene with Jace and Clary was intense. It’s clear that their bond goes beyond something emotional or physical. What are your thoughts on the bond they share? Do their feelings for each other influence the connection?

Blaire: Firstly, HELL YES CLACE. Ok, now that that is out of my system, yes, their feelings definitely do influence their connection. If anything, their connection only makes their feelings stronger. I think Clary and Jace, even in the books, always had a really great bond. They just worked. Jace, always being the cocky one, pushes Clary out if her comfort zone, and Clary, being the kind hearted one, keeps Jace grounded. They are a great team.

Stacey: Honestly, I didn’t understand it. The show never actually explained how the rune worked. It was just two people glowing while rubbing up on each other. I know people thought it was a sexy scene but I didn’t get it.

ShadowhuntersLA: Of course their feelings have impact on the bond. For me, the bond is more powerful now that they can accept their feelings for the other without regrets. Maybe the strong bond could affect their angelic powers, making them capable of doing new (and exciting) things.

Nephilimupdates: The Clace sparks have been delivered! They have a complicated relationship going from couple, to siblings, to awkward acquaintances, back to a couple. They had a unique bond before they even found out about their blood. I do not think their love for each other influences their abilities. Jace’s unique ability acts as an extra charge to Clary’s abilities and his own.

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3. You would think that Magnus, being centuries old, would know by now that siding with The Seelie Queen can be tricky. Do you think he did the right decision or should he have known better than this?

Blaire: The simple answer is yes. He should know by now, but at the same time, the situation with Alec is really clouding his judgement. He’s obviously hurting. Not only because of Alec but because of what he went through at the start of 2B. He’s struggling, he has a lot of years of built up pain within him, and he’s not thinking straight. I’ll be interested to see how this all plays out.

Stacey: Magnus is in an awkward spot. The Clave has not proven to be trustworthy. Alec has disappointed him. Valentine has two of the Mortal Instruments. My guess is that he’s out of options. The Seelie Queen is dangerous, but her realm may be the only safe place for warlocks at the moment.

ShadowhuntersLA: As Raphael said, Magnus has been through a lot lately. He wasn’t in the best place with the old memories coming back and all the situation with Alec and the Soul-Sword made everything worse. I think he’s emotionally lost, but still, he has to look after his people. And the Seelie Queen is an expert in manipulation, I can’t blame Magnus for the decision he made.

Nephilimupdates: Magnus definitely got himself into a sticky situation with the Seelie Queen. The entire Shadow World could be affected by one wring turn with the alliance. I truly do not know if Magnus did the right thing or not, but it looked like the best choice at the time to ensure the safety of his people. After the ending of the episode though, we will have see what happens.

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4. Valentine turned mundanes into forsaken to help him buy some time fighting off the Shadowhunters. If Sebastian was supposed to be incredibly fast and powerful, why wouldn’t his Father trust him to take care of the group by himself? Don’t you think that if Valentine cared for him, he would’ve stayed and fight by his side?

Blaire: Yeah. This basically backs up what I was saying last time. Valentine does not love Sebastian as a son. He loves him as a creation. He doesn’t care for Sebastian in the way Sebastian thinks he does. He’s after one thing, and that’s ridding the world of all demons, including the downworld. And he will do and use anything at his disposal. He’s manipulative, cunning and an all round jerk.

Stacey: Valentine only cares about his agenda. There was no chance he’d endanger himself for anyone else. He’s proven that time and time again. I’m rarely surprised by his actions anymore.

ShadowhuntersLA: Valentine doesn’t care about anything or anyone aside from his plans. He needed time, but he can see how emotionally damaged his son is and he can’t afford more fails in his plan.

Nephilimupdates: From what it seems, Sebastian tends to act on first impulse. Springing into action without really processing the consequences of his actions. Maybe that is why he created the Forsaken, to buy Sebastian a little more time to evaluate his options. I do not think he did it all for Sebastian’s sake though, he may have done it to buy himself time in order to negotiate with the Seelie Queen. Valentine does care for Sebastian, but he did not fight beside him because he knows about the enhanced abilities his son has. He may not have fought with Sebastian because Jace and Clary are useful to him alive rather than dead.

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5. The Seelie Queen is quite obsessed (or perhaps smitten) with Simon. And she even went as far as kidnapped Maia to get a reaction from him. Why do you think she keeps insisting he should join her side?

Blaire: The Queen wants what she can’t have. She always wants to be on the winning side and wants anyone who can help. She also wants the different under her power. Because she knows that she can use Simon’s status as a daylighter to get the Vampires on her side too, probably by telling them she can make them like Simon or something. Plus, Simon is different, unlike anything she’s seen in a long time, and I think she genuinely is just obsessed with owning shiny things, so she wants this strange daylighter under her possession. She’s not used to people saying no, so Simon doing just that is clearly infuriating for her. She wants him. And that want takes over, driving her to do whatever is necessary to get it.

Stacey: I’m not sure. The only thing I can think of is that the Seelie Queen’s intrigued by Simon’s power. She must believe that it can benefit her in some way.

ShadowhuntersLA: What’s the deal with the Seelie Queen and Simon? I think she wants him only as a trophy, giving his status as a daylighter; he’s a creature that even she hasn’t seen before so she might think that having him by her side will make her look even more powerful to the Downworld.

Nephilimupdates: The Seelie Queen is super interested in Simon. Being the first Daylighter to appear in hundreds of years, having insider information on the Shadowhunters via Clary, and just over all getting along with every branch in the Shadow World makes Simon special. She wants the most powerful creatures to serve her purpose and Simon has the potential of being a valuable asset to the Queen. I am not sure why she wants Simon as part of her court. He would be another “tool in the shed” the Queen would have at her disposal if the need arises. Who knows what she could do with Simon if he joined her.

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6. Raphael and Izzy talked things through and confessed that both of them still have feelings for each other. Should they give it a try and act on their emotions? Do you see a future in this relationship?

Blaire: Well, book me says no and no, but tv me is like THEY’RE SO CUTE AND I WANT THEM TO BE TOGETHER AND BE HAPPY so yeah I’m a bit conflicted.

Stacey: No, alcoholics can’t be around alcohol because of the temptation. Any addiction works the same way when you’re an addict. There’s always going to be that temptation around him. It would be better for her if he stayed away.

ShadowhuntersLA: I’m linking the whole Rizzy thing, they seem to connect and trust each other in ways the only both of them understand, but there’s always the risk of addiction and that’s a dangerous thing in any kind of relationship, plus considering everything that’s happening in the Shadow World a romantic relationship wouldn’t be the wiser thing to do, I rather see their friendship grow stronger and evolve without any side effects.

Nephilimupdates: Raphael and Isabelle holding off on a potential relationship seems best. Committing time to each other would be difficult with family conflict, Valentine and Sebastian disappearing, and potential war in the air. I do not see a future where they are together.

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7. Jace kept pushing Jonathan, saying comments that provoked him to fight. Which ended up with Jonathan freeing Jace to fight. If Izzy hadn’t shown up, Jace would probably have ended up dead. Should we be calm now that Sebastian is dead? Do you think they got rid of him for good?

Blaire: Again, book me knows the truth. So no, no one is dead until we see a body and poke it to make sure it’s not faking it then burn it to be super sure. There is more to come with the Sebastian plot line. If it sticks to the books, then a LOT more!

Stacey: He’s not dead. No way. He’s too important to die in half a season. From what I remember, I think he was in three out of the six books. When he dies for real, it will be a long and intense process.

ShadowhuntersLA: Is he really dead? It’s unlikely. Sebastian is one of a kind, a Shadowhunters with Demon blood, they might have injured his Shadowhunter body but his demonic blood and form will surface in order to heal him and keep him alive. He’s way too smart and he is probably gonna let them think he is dead so the Shadowhunters let their guard down and focus the hunt on Valentine, while Sebastian fully recovers and continues his plan, plus if the Shadowhunters focus their hunt on Valentine, well that’s one problem less for him and since we didn’t see his body, I’m pretty sure his demonic blood will show to heal him.

Nephilimupdates: How can the Shadow World be calm if Valentine is still out on the loose? He was the initial threat and continues to be. I am a little skeptical about Sebastian because he spent a long time in Hell. He developed a tolerance for pain and purposefully harms himself in order to actually feel something. He has healed himself awfully quick in many occasions, therefore I have my doubts about his death.

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Final Verdict: Shadowhunters is finishing his Second Season stronger than ever.

It was the ultimate battle between Jace and Jonathan on this week’s episode of Shadowhunters. We’re not going to lie, we were waiting for this. Jace was ready to face him and get revenge on all the harm he has done, specially with his family. With one of the bad guys taken out of the picture, are the Shadowhunters in advantage as they are about to face Valentine? Honestly, we’ve always thought of the two of them as separate villains, mainly because unlike his Father, Jonathan’s main plan hasn’t been to take down the Downworld. What Jonathan really loves to do is mess up with the Shadowhunters lives, thinking he could someday earn the love of his Sister, not really realizing that his actions can’t be forgiven by her.

There’s only one episode left in this season. We can’t believe it still. There is no way of getting ourselves ready for the deaths we feel are coming. We think we have a clue about them, but then the cast and writers make us doubt ourselves again. And we have the feeling that not everything will get sorted out. There is no way of fitting everything in 42 minutes! Make sure you tune in to our last Roundtable for the season as we discuss the main events and see if our theories came true.

Shadowhunters airs Mondays at 8/7c on Freeform.

Will Valentine be able to fulfill his plan?

Make sure you tune in tonight for the Season Finale. And don’t forget to join us on our last Shadowhunters live tweeting of the year!
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Ana Martinez
Ana is a graphic designer from Monterrey, Mexico. She loves reading and watching her favorite books come to life on television and movies. She never misses The Flash and is a big fan of Pretty Little Liars, The Fosters and basically every show from Freeform. You will often find her on twitter fangirling about everything related to Shadowhunters or the book series it is based on, The Mortal Instruments. Another one of her passions is traveling, and she hopes that in the future she will be able to do it more often and visit as many places as she can.
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